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Groups to Boycott Starbucks Over Stances on Gay Rights, Guns

Separate boycotts criticize coffee chain's stances on national issues. What are your thoughts?

 

Some religious and political groups are urging Starbucks customers to grab their morning coffee elsewhere in light of the company's stance on gay marriage and its policy on guns.

USA Christian Ministries, a group boycotting Starbucks for its recent support of gay marriage in the state of Washington, said in a news release that the coffee chain's decision has angered Christians.

"Christians are upset with Starbucks for turning against God," Steven Andrew, president of USA Christian Ministries, said.

The group hopes that, with full support from Christians, Starbucks, which operates several locations in Fairfield, could lose up to 80 percent of its business.

Starbucks joined Microsoft and Nike in publicly supporting gay marriage in a statement last week, according to the Seattle Times. In its statement, Kalen Holmes, executive vice president for partner resources, said the Starbucks embraces diversity and provides an "inclusive, supportive and safe work environment" for its employees.

"This important legislation is aligned with Starbucks business practices and upholds our belief in the equal treatment of partners," the statement read. "It is core to who we are and what we value as a company."

This isn't the first time the company has made headlines for taking a stance on gay marriage. In 2011, Starbucks was among a group of 70 business and organizations opposing the Defense of Marriage Act, CNN reported.

An unrelated Feb. 14 boycott is planned to protest the company's policy allowing customers with guns to be served.

The National Gun Victims Action Council, an anti-gun group, said in a Jan. 23 news release its goal is to "eliminate the risk of guns in public places and ultimately to bring sane gun laws to the U.S."

Related Topics: Gay Marriage, Gun Policy, and Starbucks

Richard Leighton Dixon

10:51 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Wow, two new reasons for me to spend even more money at Starbucks!

And guess where I am while I'm posting this...

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Mark

12:09 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Gun and self defense rights supporters will be there Feb. 14th and after that to support Starbucks and there are many more of us.

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Sandy Kay

12:12 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

No more Starbucks for me. I agree we need to treat others with respect no matter who they are. I know people who are gay, and I'm respectful towards them; however, I'm against gay marriage and cannot support a company who pushes for it.

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fairfield newcomer

12:28 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Your bigotry and prejudice seems to have kept you from reading and understanding the statement made by the Starbucks Executive Vice President so I will repeat it for you because I'm sure you won't reread the story. Kalen Holmes, Executive Vice President for partner resources, said the Starbucks embraces diversity and provides an "inclusive, supportive and safe work environment" for its employees.
"This important legislation is aligned with Starbucks business practices and upholds our belief in the equal treatment of partners," the statement read. "It is core to who we are and what we value as a company," that is clearly not pushing anything but it is being supportive of the employees rights as gay people, no statements about gay marriage.

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Pi

1:49 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

How can you be against gay marriage but still be respectful towards the gay people you know? Treating someone as less than equal is not respecting them.

My position on gay marriage? I don't really care. It has absolutely no bearing on who I am. If two consenting adults are happy with each other, I am happy for them. It really doesn't affect me.

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Chuck E. Arla

4:04 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012

F. Newcomer,

Just reading back through this thread. . . re your admonishment of S. Kay: What are you talking about??? "No statements about gay marriage"??? That will come as a surprise to Starbucks:

* "Starbucks joined Microsoft and Nike in publicly supporting gay marriage in a statement last week"

How can you possibly arrive at your statement? The legislation that they came out in support of is gay marriage legislation in Washington state .

Hello, anybody home?

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Just One Teacher

8:15 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012

"Who the hell trolls through these threads 3 weeks after the fact?"

Apparently you do, Chuck!
Good night.

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René

1:54 pm on Saturday, March 24, 2012

You are just a retrograde and stupid person, try to face it 4 a second! ... you don't even realize what does it really mean respect... don' even think to be able to talk about love... friendship...and knowing people means to care about them!!! stupid bigot woman, but read yourself carefully and thinking at the same time: "I'm respectful towards them" well it seems so clear that you just try to tolerate "them" wha are they really for you? ...people, beens ,,, human? do you have friends lesbian or gay or transexual? .... or just friends?... a soon or a daughter gay? or bisexual? could happen to you ... do u know this? are you a mother? ... a young stupid american girl?... a politic? you study something? ...well for sure a not traveled and well educated person ... come on Sandy, what kind of friends do you think you have? or you really think they need your approuval?! cause your idea of god .... yeah right keep considering the other people rights less than yours ... in so many ways... not need to explain why you ar against peoples choices and the dyversity world we are on? ...or maybe yes, please!?...try to explain yourself i i will say excuse so sincerelly to you, believe ME say somehow why? in a deeply sharply and honestly way. :ò?.... R,B

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René

4:14 pm on Saturday, March 24, 2012

... or you prefer to keep your sad, selfish and narrow point of view & judgement this way... much lower is hard to go...and don't be so proud and sure of what you think and say talking through ( using) religion and persons rights! ( i'm sorry 4 my english, i tryed to be clear and sincere ... well i know i'm pasionate, forgive the emotinal side in my reply against pure bigotry! ... renè b.

Sandy Kay

12:59 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

I'm sorry that I seem to have offended you. That is not my intention. However, I know what I read, and I stand by my statement. It has nothing to do with bigotry or being predjudice on my part. "Being supportive" does "push" your values on to others. You have the right to support companies that you are in agreement with as do I. I know people are going to disagree with me...and they have the right to do so...just as I have right to disagree with them. Have a wonderful day! ;-)

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fairfield newcomer

1:15 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

You are assuming something that was not stated in the Starbucks statement and that's what people who are prejudiced and bigoted commonly do. You can deny that because I suppose that is how you get to live with yourself.

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iamspartacus

2:36 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

That is as ridiculous as saying " I am not a racist I just prefer segregation" and "I don't want segregation pushed on me"
This is America Sandy and you have the right to any opinion you want, your opinion just happens to mean that your a a bigot

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Anya Stefanovich

7:49 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012

I agree with you. You can support BASIC rights for homosexuals (food, lodging, employment) without needing to support SPECIAL rights which they are not entitled to (marriage is an act between heterosexuals only). Its akin to believing animals have the basic rights to food, lodging, medical care and protection from abuse, but not the special right to open a checking account.

Sandy Kay

1:28 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

I believe in the truth. I don't skirt around issues. As I said, you have the right to disagree with me. I could call you prejudice or a bigot because you disagree with me, but I won't because I don't like to call people names. I hope you have a blessed day! (And I sincerely mean that!) :-)

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iamspartacus

2:33 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Uh! Sandy are you suggesting someone can be bigoted against bigots?
You don't name call but instead you want to deny people the same rights you have and that makes you a good person? A blessed day? really? how conveniently Christian of you.
How is gay people getting married pushing something on you? No one is suggesting that Starbucks wants you to marry anyone you don't want to.
Sandy it is not name calling it is identifying you as you are..a homophobic bigot

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RLC

2:42 pm on Friday, March 2, 2012

Then I'm glad, Sandy Kay, that you believe in the truth. Because the TRUTH is that you are predjudiced against LGBT people. The definition of PREJUDICE is clearly stated in Merriam-Webster as: "injury or damage resulting from some judgment or action of another in disregard of one's RIGHTS; especially : detriment to one's legal RIGHTS or claims."

You have every right to your opinions and every right to boycott whichever companies you like. You are, however, in TRUTH a prejudiced person.

fairfield newcomer

1:35 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

You assuage your comment by saying have a blessed day, you don't disguise what you are.

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Fairfield native

4:31 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

i agree- if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...it is a duck. Sorry Sandy- Starbucks statement is not about gay marriage and your reaction sound very homophobic. Quack, Quack

Sandy Kay

3:46 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Marriage is an institution placed into existence by God Himself, and since God is the One who created it, He alone should choose it's peramiter. People have a right to live with whom they choose to, but God said that marriage is an institution between one man and one woman for life. The sexual relationship between a man and a woman shall only exist within the confines of that marriage. If the state chooses to change the boundaries of marriage, then it should change the term in which it uses to identify this union, and the Church should not be forced to accept such a union nor Pastors be forced to perform said ceremonies which are in direct violation to God's word. It should remain a state issue, and not be forced upon a Christian society.

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fairfield newcomer

7:40 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

You are incorrect as to where marriage came from, clearly not from on high, please read the following.

The institution of marriage is a secular and social institution. In different ancient cultures, marriage was more of a business arrangement, joining families together for mutual benefit. Under Roman law in the first centuries of the Common Era, there were proper opportunities for divorce and the dissolution of a marital union for both parties. However, as the Christian church grew, marriage became more ecclesiastically governed; the church dictated the rules of marriage (as well as the rules of dissolution, as many remember Henry VIII's desire for a papal annulment of his marriage to Catherine of Aragon). The Christian governance of marriage fractured during the Protestant Reformation. Figures like Martin Luther and John Calvin recognized marriage as a civil matter, a worldly affair, and not under the aegis of the church. Still there are many Catholics and non-Catholics alike who recognize marriage as a Christian affair, and further, believe it is divinely endorsed as a heterosexual institution. In my local paper in Kentucky, a letter was sent in to the editor lambasting the New York vote, claiming that marriage was created by God since the story of Adam and Eve is the proof-text. Advocates of this position should note, that Adam and Eve would still need to purchase a civil marriage license if they sought to get married today.

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fairfield newcomer

7:44 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

After reading your comment, separate but equal comes to my mind, as in the south before integration where education was concerned and the US Supreme Court declared it to be illegal.

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Anya Stefanovich

7:50 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012

I live in a very liberal city and have known many homosexuals...most do not want to marry, the real reason why they are so gungho for this "gay marriage" business is to make what they are seem NORMAL.

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RLC

2:47 pm on Friday, March 2, 2012

Did you talk to G*d personally, Sandy, to verify this statement??? Please give me the EXACT line from the bible where G*d placed "marriage" into existence. Can't wait for your response :)

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Peter

5:41 pm on Friday, March 2, 2012

RLC Seriously it is through out the Bible old and new testament about marriage. Every apostle wrote about it. Check Matthew 19:3-6 or 1John 2:4-6 or 1Corinthians 7:2-3 or Romans 13:1 or Genisis 2:8 the list goes on and on. Get into the Word

John Jameson

4:44 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

If you want to believe that God created marriage, that's fine for you. Not everyone in this world believes in the same "God" that you do, some don't believe in God at all. Does that mean they can't get married? If it is strictly a religious institution, then why do people have to go to their local town clerk's office to get a marriage license? Churches, synagogues, etc., can choose who they allow to marry inside those walls; outside those walls, it is none of that faith's concern. And states that have allowed gays to marry do NOT force a church/synagogue to perform those marriages.

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bob rossson

11:07 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

John, your are so wrong. Jews, Christians and Muslims all believe in the God of Abraham. That would be 80% of the population!! 20 % or atheist or believe in another power. Gay is not natural! I do not care if you are gay or not but it is a choice!!! Just do not tell me it is okay to be gay!!!!

Carol Lee

5:40 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

I wish Starbucks would stay apolitical. It would make things easier for everyone that loves them. However, since they have thrown their hat in the ring, I feel that I must as well. I will no longer support them as they are supporting something that I do not believe in. I am a Christian and believe what Sandy says to be true. Upon reading the diatribe coming from the "tolerant" people, I have to say that Sandy has handled herself with more class and aplomb than the other people on this thread. Keep up the good fight Sandy.... Be a "Duck" ---- let it slide right off your back!!

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fairfield newcomer

8:06 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Those claiming to be christian usually do so after telling someone that they live in a manner the "christian" disagrees with. My understanding of being christian is much the same as the definition of the "golden rule" treat others as you would want to be treated.

Because you used the term diatribe describing the discussion here I will post the definition from Merriam-Webster:
Definition of DIATRIBE

1) archaic : a prolonged discourse
2) a bitter and abusive speech or piece of writing
3) ironic or satirical criticism

I don't thing any of these definitions would describe the discussion that took place.

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Pi

10:51 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

You realize there is a separation between church and state, correct? That marriage is a union recognized not only by religion but also the government? If churches don't want to accept or perform gay marriages, no one is forcing them to do it.

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René

7:50 pm on Friday, March 23, 2012

Carol, you just do not have to say anything... narrow minds maintaint ignorance and bygotry findind good and god reasons all over, keep track on cristian history x example! ... read more, travel with different eyes, and do not try to be a model of good taste or manners where it comes to believe in been superior and have the right & truth on your hand, do not help others with their senless fights against equality on diversity, Where do you live? you really believe you are on the right track!? if yo do so who cares who and what you are when it comes to judge others humans way of life? you are christian? you dont seem so... from past centurys! ...who cares, is not the only religion on the world! ... human kind is so much vaste and complex than we ever will realize in siecles, of course you will keep supporting "the hate fight" dont think that just giving it a different name changes the inner reason and logic of such kind of comments and discourses, don't tall about "class and aplomb" is just such a poor defence, read more, travel a little bit around the world. Starbucks? what is... just another company in some cowtryes?, here we are talking about humans and these 2 items you wouldn't mix, if you were less illeterate and narrow mind of course.

Laura W

7:54 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Just a reminder to everyone reading this article (and these comments) that USA Christian Ministries does NOT represent the views held by the majority of Christians in the United States. In fact, that is true of not just Christian Americans: a recent study published by the Public Religion Research Institute (publicresearch.org) found that as of May 2011, majorities of most religious groups in America supported gay marriage rights. It's time that Christians in the US stop allowing a small and extremist faction of Christianity speak for us all. Organizations like Believe Out Loud (believeoutloud.com) are off to a good start on setting the record straight.

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bob rossson

10:59 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

You are so full of Dung!!!! What do you live in some hippie state like Massachusetts!!
You need to take your Comi tale to another country!!! Most Christians do not support gay marriage.

Carol Lee

9:57 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

@Fairfield Newcomer
Diatribe: a bitter, sharply abusive denunciation, attack, or criticism:ie repeated diatribes against the senator. (Dictionary.com- also the same as #2 in your definition from Miriam Webster)
You proved my point, thank you. I never heard Sandy say anything negative to anyone on this thread and yet she is attacked as being homophobic and a bigot.
I believe a bigot is a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion. Let's look further into this, shall we? Creed:any system, doctrine, or formula of religious belief, as of a denomination. It sounds to me like there are more bigoted people touting their superiority of tolerance of the rights of homosexuality and negating the rights of Christians to share THEIR beliefs.

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Carol Lee

9:59 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Oh, I forgot. Have a blessed day. :-)

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Carol Lee

10:13 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

@ Laura W
We are all sinners and fall short of the Glory of God.
"It's time that Christians in the US stop allowing a small and extremist faction of Christianity speak for us all. Organizations like Believe Out Loud (believeoutloud.com) are off to a good start on setting the record straight."
Many people also believe that the Bible is a nice little fairy tale, too. Hmmmm.....

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bob rossson

10:54 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Carol, pick a stance!! You sound like that piece of dung we have in office. yes we are all sinners. But we do not have to agree with the gay lovin hippies. You want to be gay that is your choice, just do not force it down my throat that it is okay. Take away Christianity, its still not natural. You ever see two male rabbits or female rabbits having intercourse. yes they humped each other for dominance, but I do not believe Bruce an Buster are doing it for dominance. Do You?? What you do in your own bed room is between you and God. Like I said before, do not shove it down my throat!!

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iamspartacus

8:53 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

bob you think a lot about what gay men do together, and your choice of phrases makes me think .....do you want to tell us something...perhaps where this anger comes from...its ok bob its 2012....step out and be yourself you will be much happier

Carol Lee

12:19 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

Bob,
I'm sorry if my statements were confusing. I was quoting Laura W. and responding to her boasting that other "enlightened" Christians believe that the homosexual lifestyle is okay in God's eyes. I was being facetious at the end. I believe the Bible to be the true word of God. I am not gay. It's nice to see someone besides Sandy and myself defending what God's word says. I do not try to push my beliefs down anyone's throat as they are trying to do to us.

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Sandy Kay

2:27 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

Carol and Bob, it's nice to see others out there who believe that God created marriage to be between one man and one woman only. Bob, I feel your passion, but it does not sit well with unbelievers when you call them "dung". My Dear Friend, I know we can't change their minds or lead them away from their perverse behavior. All we can do is shine the Light a little bit...and hope they will see the Truth, and that it will set them free. There are many things I COULD say on here...or even websites to back up my previous points...but alas...where will it get me? No where? The sites I would provide would be provided with sites of their own...a long with another dose of insults. I will say that this has made me keenly aware of Satan's attack upon mankind and the lies he has people believing. Jesus told us to dust the dirt off our sandals, and move onto the next town when people will not hear the truth. So I plan to move on. Carol and Bob, I suggest you do the same.

For those who disagree with me, I do pray that your eyes are opened before it's too late. And now that it's night time, I wish you a blessed evening...and whether you choose to believe my sincerity or not...well that's up to you...isn't it? :-)

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Frederick Klein

1:07 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

After reading your post, Sandy, I hope we never meet. And I am being sincere.

Chris D.

8:00 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

If Starbuck's stances on the 2nd Amendment and gay marriage stop the Mommies in their Chevy Suburbans from cutting across 3 lanes of traffic on the Post Road to get their fix, I will have to frequent their establishments more often as a show of support.

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Chuck E. Arla

10:16 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

Wow, all of this over lousy, burnt and absurdly overpriced corporate coffee. Buy your Joe from a LOCAL deli, diner, gas station or coffee shop.

Dave

11:57 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

I think gay-friendly people should formally BUYcott Starbucks. Google BUYcott or visit the archives of http://rewardandconsent.blogspot.com to read about a BUYcott.

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Fairfield native

2:22 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

I'm Christian and not a bigot...it is possible Sandy. You are giving Christians a bad name with your warped views- try coming from a place of love instead of hate then your statement to have a blessed day would have some value.

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Frederick Klein

2:33 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

Fairfield native - I agree with you on this one. Nice to know that Sandy wants our eyes opened "before it's too late". Too late for what? For dinner? For must-see TV? For the Rapture? What?

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Anya Stefanovich

7:51 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012

Its not bigotry to believe what the Bible says, and obey it.

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iamspartacus

7:13 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012

The Bible says we should stone to death people who don't keep holy the sabbath, should we walk around with rocks on sunday? Wow Anya come into this millennium!

Pi

9:16 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

I am really getting sick of religious groups that try to force their lifestyle on us. They want to tell us who can get married and who can't. They want to tell women that they can't have abortions. I'm sick of it.

If you're a religious person, don't marry someone of the same gender. If you don't want to have an abortion, don't have one. Most of all, don't push your distorted religious views on a SECULAR nation.

I never had a problem with the religious people because I respect their choice to believe in and practice their religion. That respect should go both ways. Who are you to decide how two consenting adults should live their lives? You don't want it in your church? That's fine. Just know that as soon as your foot leaves that last step, you are entering into the real world where not everyone holds the same beliefs. Respect them like we respect yours.

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Anya Stefanovich

7:52 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012

Fine. And don't force the homosexual ways onto US. We are asked to accept it daily or else. My taxes pay for rainbow flags to fly in my city. THAT is forcing it on US.

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Pi

8:07 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012

No one is forcing the "homosexual ways" onto you. If you don't like gay marriage, don't get gay married. No one is forcing you to marry someone of the same gender. No one is forcing you to allow it in your churches.

Somehow, you religious bigots turn everything into "Oh my, they're persecuting us!" when you don't get your way. It has nothing to do with you. It's about two consenting adults being able to benefit from a marriage. GET OVER IT. Not everyone subscribes to your religious nonsense.

Do you have any idea how many of my tax dollars are spent on things I don't like? We just spent millions on a brand new train station that I didn't want. The idea was idiotic and reeks of corruption. You don't see me telling other people they can't use it because I don't agree with it.

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iamspartacus

7:14 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012

anya churches are free loaders who don't pay taxes

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René

7:24 pm on Friday, March 23, 2012

PI i agree with you... but i dont understand where all this bigotry and prejudice, that i'm reading on this other comments come from? wow it's seems to have kept so many people away from reading, travelling and really understanding so many basic things, ... Fascism (& bygotry) heals by reading racism by travelling. / Fascism is cured reading. And racism is cured travelling. Miguel de Unamuno http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Unamuno

fairfield newcomer

8:15 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

That's exactly what's wrong with the conservative christian right, they don't believe in live and let live, they believe in "I'll live how I want to and I'll tell you how you should live".

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René

1:14 pm on Saturday, March 24, 2012

Fairfield i agree with you, this is so true and the sad thing cause is just the same way all over the world, here in rome is even worst they are the goverment and mafia and the same time, they rule it all!!! ... schools with the no sexualeduc and monopolize religious educ, they rule social field work, the secret bankin and what they stole from public taxes, they dont pay taxes 4 all their goods, disonest company competition and influence research and alternatives medic cures... and so on. so sad italians got to coop with it all their lives, your comment was brief but sharp! it's just like that. in italian i say : "faccio le peggio cose in nome di Dio, come da secoli, ma ti diro come devi viverti la tua vita, morte ed intera esistenza," yes bad bunch of people! ciao

David Eric

5:59 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

Wow a lot of hate over "coffee" so to speak. Companies can do what they want & support whom they want to support. It's your right not to agree with them nor support them in any way but don't tell me how to live my life with whomever I want to. The bible says its good to own slaves & divorcees should be stoned to death... Huh either way it'll make getting my Starbucks alot quicker without haters sucking up the air space inside the store.

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Newtotown

8:51 pm on Friday, March 2, 2012

I don't really think much of their coffee, regardless. Dunkin is much better.

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René

6:50 pm on Friday, March 23, 2012

Sandy Kay, stop spitting setences, pleaseeeeeeee wich good are u talking about? they'are many religions and ways of thinkin... but your ignorance is so vaste that maybe you lost so much precious time praying and judging others, and talking about your god ... god says this, god wants that, it's sure that you were lobotomise long time ago, ... well try to read and travel more, if you still are able to, and please dont talk about marriage and dont tell people you'll pray for them... respect other peoples ideas, read some antropology, psicology... and please be really curious about the history of the entire world, humans are all over the earth! not only in you narrow eden ... marriage is not an istitution that god had create... stop saying nonsense phrases of a illeterate person, Miguel de Unamuno ( Vasque filosofer ) said: "You'll get the cure against fascism and bygotry by reading ... against racism? by traveling" ... it's too late 4 you?

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René

1:22 pm on Saturday, March 24, 2012

we go over the article & read some comments, for example from;: Sandy K, Anya S, Bob R & Carol L, it comes out a sad picture of a part of USA. Yes, religious bigotry and intolerance are bad things. This is an unpleasant fact, but it must be acknowledged. There are fundamentalist Christian that bash gay people with impunity, mock other religions and promote inaccurate and exclusionary“Christian nation”views of American history.Some ultra-orthodox Catholic tell that anyone outside the true faith is hell bound.This is America, and people have the right to believe these things.Parents have the right to teach them to their children.Religious leaders have the right to run schools that promote these concepts–with their own money. They don’t have the right to ask you and me to pay for it.That’s one reason why tax aid to private religious schools is such a bad idea. and why the misinterpretation of human rights are so wrong cause dangerous 4 other persons... their god must be very sad about that, uhmm so strange way to aim paradise? :ò(

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René

1:33 pm on Saturday, March 24, 2012

a note from my last comment. part of this article i recomposed with an another article from this matters i read often from all over the world, and cause my english is not so good, i know i made often mistakes... but besides this, the thinking, which is the 4 me the botton line, i just tried to communicate, sincerelly one point of viem about the whole sad thing ... in italiano i'll said "per diritto di cronaca" ok free love & peace 4 all human been no borders or intl lobbys sometine hope no so far, at least 4 next generations ;ò)

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Pi

4:58 pm on Saturday, March 24, 2012

You know what would be great? If you could stop replying to a story that is over a month old with hate filled messages.

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