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Bearing Witness at the Gun Violence Hearing

Advocating on the side of stricter gun laws, 'Patch In' columnist Heather Borden Herve attended Monday’s Gun Violence hearing in Hartford.

 

Perhaps we should have expected to get shouted at. Perhaps we should have known we’d get taunted.

But it was unimaginably sad to learn that Neil Heslin, father of slain Sandy Hook 6-year-old Jessie McCord Lewis, was heckled as he spoke at Monday’s hearing for the Gun Violence Prevention Working Group at the Legislative Office Building in Hartford.

Heslin bravely offered his testimony regarding rapid-firing firearms like the one used in the slaying of his son, saying, “I still can’t see why any civilian, anybody in the room in fact, needs weapons of that sort. You’re not going to use them for hunting, even for home protection.” As the despondent father spoke, pro-gun activists in the room shouted at him, “Second Amendment!” and “Our rights will not be infringed!”

I was present in the main hearing room for part of the day. I had hoped to offer my testimony like the 1,400 other individuals who registered to speak, and join a reported 2,000 in total who came to the hearings. We all felt passionately about sharing our views with the legislators, those who felt similarly and those who disagreed.

We were energized by the democratic process, by being able to express our views to those who represented us, and by finding strength in the voices of those who felt similarly.

Those like me, who support stricter gun laws and restrictions on gun purchasing, were easily outnumbered by gun rights activists, by what seemed like 100 to 1. We had heard that CT gun groups had organized buses to pack the venue with their members. We knew it would be a tense day, but couldn’t have imagined how acrimonious it really became.

In fact it was the acrimony and the despicable behavior of a vocal fringe minority of gun rights activists that made it clear just how hostile and extreme this battle over guns really is.

Not Your Usual Day of Testimony

Typically there are no metal detectors at the buildings’ entrances, but because the day’s topic was guns they installed them, causing a long, 100-yard snaking line to get into the legislative building. In fact, it took two hours of standing outside in frigid temperatures and falling snow before we could get in and be screened.

Many in my group felt nervous, never having testified before and not knowing what to expect. Most of us there to testify about strengthening gun laws were women, allied with March for Change or One Million Moms for Gun Control.

Several of us wore green, to show support for those killed in Newtown. We talked about how likely it was that many women who planned to attend the hearing with us couldn’t, due to early dismissals many school districts called once the snowfall started sticking. I guess us moms are ‘the first line of defense’ when the kids’ plans change. It seemed the majority of the gun rights proponents were men.

Gender and gun-law positions weren’t the only differences we noticed.

On line, during testimony and through most of the day, there were many interactions with those who felt differently that felt incredibly hostile and overpowering. Most of the individuals on each side of the debate stood calmly, and treated one another respectfully, if not simply without acknowledgement. But that didn’t stop more than a handful of gun advocates from starting their bullying before getting in the building, screaming at those wearing green, “Don’t cut the line, you think you’re so privileged! We have our rights!”

The same kinds of catcalls and shouts were more apparent inside, most markedly in the overflow rooms where the testimony to legislators was televised on closed circuit video. The cheers, taunts and leers were loud each time a pro-gun speaker sat in front of the lawmakers, the looks, hisses and whispered insults were constant.

Even inside the main hearing room, where the panel’s chair regularly asked onlookers from both sides to refrain from applause and comment, the muted taunts by a vocal few gun-rights supporters against gun-safety advocates kept coming — like the hisses directed at the Rabbi from Newtown, when he talked about counseling the families of the murdered children.

We listened to mayors and legislators from urban areas talk about the kind of violence that claims the lives of their inner-city youth; we listened to the testimony of the Donnelly brother and sister, whose parents were brutally shot to death during a robbery of their Fairfield jewelry store; we listened to the young men from Southbury who survived the Aurora movie theater shooting last summer.

We listened to those on the other side, who spoke of their reasons for wanting no change to current gun laws, but nothing swayed me from my current position. If anything, I walked away feeling stronger in my convictions about the changes in gun legislation I hope to see.

Even Sensible Changes, But It’s Still Too Much For Some

I’ve articulated my beliefs that our current state and federal gun laws should be strengthened, and should be more consistently and better enforced. I’ve written it before, and I’ll write it here again:

I do not think that citizens should be stripped of their right to own a gun, especially in order to protect themselves.

But I want to clarify some areas of gun law that I think are most important to focus on:

  • We need a gun registry, just like the DMV
  • We need a gun-offender registry, just like a sex-offender registry
  • We need stronger, universal background checks, every place someone can buy a gun
  • We need stronger enforcement of current gun laws
  • We need licensing and testing requirements for gun owners and users, just like we license drivers
  • All registration and licensing needs to be renewed annually
  • There should be age limits on gun purchases
  • Assault weapons whose sole purpose is to kill, and which are more suited to be used by the military rather than by civilians, should be banned. I’m on the fence about grandfathering because I understand the futility and impracticality of it at this point.
  • Access to high-capacity magazines should be limited.

I know that the deplorable behavior I saw Monday during the hearings is an expression of rage by a vocal, fringe minority. I know that there are reasonable gun owners and NRA members, who agree on many of the points I listed above.

In fact, a recent poll conducted after the Newtown massacre found that  86% of NRA members support background checks for ALL gun sales — that all gun buyers should be required to pass a criminal background check, no matter where they buy the gun and no matter whom they buy it from.

I’m terrified by those who are motivated to own and amass weapons because of such extreme fear that they believe they are living under direct threat from the police, from our government. This kind of paranoia should be symptomatic of the kinds of mental illness checks everyone on the side defending fewer gun laws now seems to be clamoring for.

The Emotional Arguments

I support the need for increased attention to mental illness in this country. But I’d like to point out the irony and hypocrisy of those who say mental health should be the primary focus as a cause for such gun violence. I imagine many of those same advocates for fewer restrictions on gun access are the same people calling for reducing and eliminating funding for mental health care.

I hear the term ‘institutionalize’ a lot but I don’t hear as much talk about care, providers, programs, and the funding it takes to put that in place and keep it in place long term. In fact, perhaps we could bring the topic of healthcare (e.g. Obamacare) into this decision and see how quickly that tide turns?

In this discussion, the topic of mental health is usually tied to the kinds of gun violence associated with mass shootings. But that can’t be the only scapegoat, given the much more significant numbers of accidental gun deaths and gun violence in inner cities.

People advocating for more restrictions and regulations on gun access aren’t only upset beginning with the Newtown tragedy. We’re horrified by the daily violence seen in the inner cities, and I’m ashamed that I haven’t been more of a vocal and energetic an advocate until now.

It’s not just about mental health.

I’d love to see the fringe right as well clamoring for ways to end the killing of inner-city, mostly minority youth due to gun violence, the same way they clamor for ‘unborn children.’ In the same way they line up outside abortion clinics and protest funding for Planned Parenthood using imagery of aborted fetuses, I’d like to see them holding signs showing what the murdered children of Sandy Hook looked like, as these officers recount in a Tuesday New York Times article, or as Veronique Pozner, the mother of the youngest Newtown victim, Noah Pozner, has so eloquently described.

Speaking of parents of Newtown victims, I witnessed Mrs. Pozner’s grace first hand, watching her in the hearing room as she unwaveringly told the legislators of her hopes following the murder of her son, his friends and his teachers:

“The equation is terrifyingly simple: Faster weapons equal more fatalities. This is not about the right to bear arms. It is about the right to bear weapons with the capacity for mass destruction.”

I’ve read countless comments on Patch forums from those who bemoan the ‘emotional’ argument, as they’ve so often characterized the columns I’ve written on this in the past. It is emotional — obviously on both sides. I can’t remain coldly indifferent to the loss of life that grows every day.

So as I did Monday in Hartford, and as I will continue to do every day as long as it is necessary, I will continue to speak out, accepting the Second Amendment of the Constitution, but also to defend our right to be safe from those who have a misguided interpretation of the right to bear arms.

S Lee January 31, 2013 at 01:38 pm
Ms. Herve - You completely discredited yourself by the 3rd line of your "story". The video you referenced was already shown to be an edited video by extreme left leaning MSNBC. In actuality no one spoke while Mr. Heslin was speaking. It was after he asked a question, and turned to the audience that people responded - that is hardly heckling. This is also from the network that brought us the edited Trayvon Martin tape and Meet the Press's David Gregory displaying a 30 round rifle magazine on national television which was broadcast from Washington DC - A felony for which the police refuse to charge him. This is why the liberals have no credibility anymore - they have a main stream media willing to lie to present what they want you to see, then the minions go out and continue to spread the lies as if it is the truth. You people are truly the despicable ones in this world.
Alrick H Man IV January 31, 2013 at 01:42 pm
I respect the grief that these Newtown parents feel but what they are really saying is ban all semi automatic weapons a pistol shoots just as fast as a rifle,(“The equation is terrifyingly simple: Faster weapons equal more fatalities. This is not about the right to bear arms. It is about the right to bear weapons with the capacity for mass destruction.”) So the second amendment should be reduced to: you have the right to only bear revolvers?
Creeky January 31, 2013 at 01:59 pm
I'd like to second S. Lee; there was no heckling. Mr. Heslin addressed the audience, and they responded. He acknowledged their response. He asked if anyone could tell him why... and looked around to the audience. Some of them responded the second amendment. He said okay.
You are completely full of malarky. Your article is pure emotion. As mentioned, it starts with a false accusation. You didn't do any research to support your position, as to how this will reduce violence. And the topper: " I’d like to see them holding signs showing what the murdered children of Sandy Hook looked like." Really? Really!?!
tfd January 31, 2013 at 02:52 pm
I agree with S. Lee. Ms. Herve, sadly next time you write something, we will never actually believe what you have to say. I understand that this is an "opinion" piece and nor journalism. If you are also a paid "journalist", shame on your employers. Ms. Mazzola, are you paying attenting here?
trudy January 31, 2013 at 03:31 pm
Ms Herve you are a liar and a disgrace. Noone heckled Heslin. He asked twice a question of the audience and they responded. MSNBC dishonestly edited his repeated question out.You shoukd learn the facts about the ar15 before you write such nonsense. It it used in less than .01 percent of all killings in the country. It is used to target shoot, hunt varmints and personal protection. It is not an assault rifle. Get your facts straight and stop misinforming whatever readers you have. Two men invaded Dr Petits housed raped his wife and daughters and burned it to the ground. If that happens to anyone they should have a 20 or 30 round magazine to defend his family. I know your a sheep and would just submit but many others would not including many , many strong women who unlike you refuse to be victims.
mark January 31, 2013 at 03:44 pm
Alrick H Man IV,
If no one has guns would be the better a solution,I hope you don't own one lol
Joan January 31, 2013 at 03:47 pm
Hevre your right about one thing. You were outnumbered at that hearing by what seem to be 100-1. What does that show you? Your emotional, without substance, dishonest factless extreme thinking is held by very few. In fact the only people there that actually threatened the legislators in an angry rant were the two anti gun fanatical Fairfield moms who despite their bravado, huge egos, and much publicized "grassroot lol" arrived almost alone. A nutjob stole his mothers guns and killed her. No law can stop that.Our states law denied him a gun when he tried to buy one legally. Our laws worked. Read this if you want to know the truth about the ar-15 http://authentic-connecticut-republican.blogspot.com/2013/01/this-is-ar-15-rifle.html A bunch of emotional hysterical soccer moms with little grasp of the facts do a disservice to serious people that actually want to secure our schools and make our kids safe. You are distracting the conversation with emotional nonsense that will do nothing. Two of the Newtown fathers that spoke actually said new gun laws wont make a difference. They said enforce the ones we have now. You forgot to mention that. You are a dishonest writer and your words are not credible..
trudy January 31, 2013 at 04:57 pm
Here is an interesting video that everyone would want to watch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi6gZU01yF8
Alrick H Man IV January 31, 2013 at 06:19 pm
Well mark as a matter of fact I do but even more I believe in the constitution of the United States and when that is gone,butchered up,changed by uninformed and ignorant people like yourself I will no longer be an American I will have moved to another country that values there citizens rights
R. Ludlowe January 31, 2013 at 07:29 pm
do you need help packing?
Debbie January 31, 2013 at 07:31 pm
R. Ludlowe. Professional troll.
R. Ludlowe January 31, 2013 at 07:35 pm
Hi first-time-poster Deb! amazing that you know so much about me but this is your FIRST post! What was your username yesterday? the day before?
At least I dont hide behind a new mask every day... cowards...
Alrick H Man IV January 31, 2013 at 08:12 pm
Are you anti American R Ludlowe? I've followed your comments om other articles and Maybe you should save us all a bunch of trouble and stop messing with the constitution and start packing yourself
Debbie January 31, 2013 at 08:12 pm
jeeez a little paranoid or what
Debbie January 31, 2013 at 08:14 pm
are helicoptors following you also?
MAC January 31, 2013 at 08:27 pm
Heather does not have the grace or sense to apologize for being a complicit, thoughtless dupe of the lamestream media, by repeating their lies!
Hopefully she will be a little more careful about her 'facts' next time--but I won't hold my breath. These leftists and statists, who believe that Americans are not smart enough to run their own lives without government micromanagement are totally shameless!! The best course would be just to ignore their propagandistic writings.
Frederick Klein January 31, 2013 at 09:21 pm
The most interesting idea I've heard on this issue so far: Keep the gun purchase laws as they are, but require all gun owners to buy liability insurance to cover any damage resulting from their guns.
Sandra January 31, 2013 at 09:46 pm
Ludlowe what do you think of Heather's article? we would like to know for the record
Doesn't take long to get to know you. You comment on EVERYTHING.
Fairfield Old Timer February 1, 2013 at 05:12 am
Dear Heather:
Some Girls Like Guns! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4353931599435
Frederick Klein February 1, 2013 at 02:45 pm
The most interesting idea I've heard on this issue so far: Keep the gun purchase laws as they are, but require all gun owners to buy liability insurance to cover any damage resulting from their guns.
Sandra February 1, 2013 at 05:53 pm
Heather please check this out. It seems Newtown is "speaking out for the safety of their children." We would love to hear your thoughts on this BOE vote.
http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Newtown-Votes-for-Armed-School-Officers-189320221.html?dr

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Creeky June 18, 2013 at 08:41 pm
Thomas Paine, good to hear from you. I heard you died, like, a 100 years ago! Anyway, you'reRead More right, but what does it matter? No one attending this meeting is interested in anything balanced. I don't know if you've had much opportunity to spend time in Sandy Hook but, that's a broken community. The emotional level is really, really high. More than anything, these folks have a need to "do something" (rather than address their hurt and seek closure). This is a meeting for people to pour out emotion, and find a common enemy (guns) to blame. There is no debate there. There is nothing for you there. If this is what they need, let them have it. The adversarial approach is bound for failure anyway. People get tired of listening to it, and tired of the threats. Also keep in mind, there are a bunch of these folks that earn their living doing this now (screwed up!) and they need to be very careful in how they manage their publicity to stay within IRS non-profit rules--political action is not community enrichment is not a church--got to keep them separated.
Creeky June 18, 2013 at 08:46 pm
FHA Exposed, you can rest. She turned herself in:Read More http://www.justice.gov/usao/ct/Press2013/20130604.html If you are looking for some comeuppance for those that kept this quiet, and handled what they could out of the public's eye, I wish you success in your endeavors, and the best of luck--I think you'll need it.
Thomas Paine June 18, 2013 at 10:21 pm
Creeky - For a dead guy, I try to keep busy: http://wilton.patch.com/blogs/thomas-paines-blog
FHA Exposed June 18, 2013 at 01:51 pm
http://m.youtube.com/?reload=7&rdm=mokcsg2rc#/watch?v=Jcf0_3SA8xE
Creeky June 18, 2013 at 09:34 pm
Atticus, Ralph Arnone is next scheduled to appear in court on July 1st, at which point he isRead More expected to enter a plea. As an aside, one isn't supposed to go to bed and wake up still angry at the same thing, day in, day out, week in, week out, month in, month out... I'm not trying to give you a hard time. I care deeply about firefighters and I'm genuinely concerned about you. You were exposed to a lot of chemicals in your career. You may have some endocrine system damage or something causing an electrolyte disorder. This stuff starts out with things like joint pain and minor psychological implications but, it gets much, much worse. Get to the doc. Maybe you're just a spicy guy, maybe Ralph hurt you in some terrible way, or maybe you are sick and as a result, you'll be facing a much shortened a painful life. Honestly, I'm not trying to give you a hard time or pick a fight.