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Report: Tenured Teachers Rarely Let Go

The governor wants to make tenure harder to receive and maintain.

As Gov. Dannel P. Malloy works to restructure the tenure system in public schools, the Connecticut Post found in an investigation that hardly any tenured teachers are fired.

Out of 53,000 tenured teachers in public schools, only 40 were fired in the past two years. That's a dismissal rate of less than one tenth a percent, according to the Post. 

“Today tenure is too easy to get and too hard to take away,” Malloy said earlier this month at his “State of the State” address. “I propose we do it a different way. I propose we hold every teacher to a standard of excellence.”

Under his proposed $128 million education agenda, 80 percent would go to the worst districts. In order for the schools to get the money, districts would have to “embrace key reforms,” with tenure changes being one of them.

“We cannot and will not fix what’s broken in our schools by scapegoating teachers. But nor can we fix it if we do not have the ability to remove teachers who don’t perform well in the classroom in a timely fashion,” he said. “In this new system, tenure will be a privilege, not a right. It will be earned and retained through effective teaching, not by counting years of service.”

iamspartacus February 24, 2012 at 12:09 AM
The fact is that underperforming schools are caused by socio economic factors they are exclusively poor. Stop making teachers the scapegoat!
Brian February 24, 2012 at 10:57 AM
Teachers are easy targets for the "failure" of education. Poverty is the basic cause of student disengagement. Even highly dedicated educators are faced with enormous challenges in their attempts to educate the next generation of leaders, especially in poor districts. Qualifying for free or reduced lunch takes care of only that basic need. The current plan from Malloy better address this or the state's children will be faced with an even greater turnover than Gerald cites above.
Jim Eastwood February 24, 2012 at 01:15 PM
Good Morning Everyone; Teachers only do what they are told A BETTER and More Cost effectent idea would be to FIRE the over abundant and Costly MANAGERS !!!!!!!! Have a Grreat Day !!!!!!
Chuck E. Arla February 24, 2012 at 02:33 PM
Tenure for public school teachers is nonsense. The concept of tenure originated to protect academic inquiry against political forces (e.g., the crown, the church, the riled up masses). In CT today (and across the unionized teacher landscape) it is job protection --- pure and simple.
iamspartacus February 24, 2012 at 04:12 PM
Chuck you are the uninformed riled up mass they need protection from
Chuck E. Arla February 24, 2012 at 04:27 PM
A system designed to protect academic research at the university level has been highjacked by teacher unions to create the most priveleged civil service sinecure. BTW, don't misquoute me: you said "uninformed" masses I did not. Sometimes the masses are very well informed. But, I'll thank you for your left handed compliment anyway....WE are the change that education has been waiting for.
iamspartacus February 24, 2012 at 04:40 PM
I didn't misquote you I properly characterised you
Chuck E. Arla February 24, 2012 at 04:44 PM
You may be good with sword and sandals . . .but a proofreader you'll never be. BTW, Spartacus was your's a revolt of the uninformed?
iamspartacus February 24, 2012 at 07:09 PM
The slaves that revolted were uneducated, and they were uneducated because their masters made sure they stayed that way. Much like today's 1%ers and (their lap dogs) want the middle class and poor to be by destroying education. The way to do that is to tear down the unions, so that no one is left to fight them. History says that some of the slaves Spartacus tried to free fought against him ( they were brainwashed too, even before fox news was around to convince people to vote against their own self interest). Good news though, people are waking up, watch the thrashing Obama puts on his Republican Challenger (if they ever pick one).
Chuck E. Arla February 24, 2012 at 08:30 PM
Such hyperbole. Such nonsense. Does the Kool Aid come in different flavors, comrade?
Newtotown February 24, 2012 at 11:16 PM
That's great Sparty, if tenure is so meaningless then you won't miss it!
Newtotown February 24, 2012 at 11:20 PM
Sparty, just more desperate ramblings. I sincerely hope you and your ilk are not teaching out children. Are these pampered, overpaid teachers now suggesting they are equivalent to those horribly enslaved by the Roman Empire. How disgraceful! Please don't pollute our children's minds with your ignorance, Sparty.
GiaMarie February 25, 2012 at 03:47 AM
Pampered and overpaid? Really?? Do you actually know any teachers?? Most of the teachers I know work very hard under challenging conditions and are struggling to pay their bills. Many have to have second jobs to support their families. Most are very devoted to their students. When people working for corporations were making loads of cash and raking in the bonuses, they were not jealous of job security or the salaries of their friends with equal or better education who were struggling. If you think teaching is so cushy, I dare you to give it a whirl.
Fairfield native February 25, 2012 at 11:54 AM
Well said GiaMarie!
iamspartacus February 25, 2012 at 01:54 PM
It appears I struck a nerve, that generally means I hit my mark. One of you turns into Sen. McCarthy and the other wants to still make sure her children don't learn the truth. You keep blaming teachers it shows who is the ignoramus.
Laura Keller March 05, 2012 at 04:50 PM
totally agree Chuck! I worked with a special ed teacher at Warde HS - all she did was sit in the nurses office and chat. Myself and the other teacher's aide were doing her work and she was getting all the glory! There was also a gym teacher at Ludlowe MS who would not let my son get down off the rope until he read a sign across the gym. At this time, he was on the fence whether he needed glasses or not - told this now retired gym teacher he couldn't see the sign to read, he was instead embarrassed in front of his gym class. These are teachers? SHAME on them. Tenure not deserved in these 2 cases....
Laura Keller March 05, 2012 at 04:57 PM
@GiaMarie- I worked with a spec ed teacher at Warde HS who sat in the nurses office day after day while myself and the other teachers aide did her work and she got the glory and the paycheck. Another teacher, a gym teacher from Ludlowe MS wouldn't let my son climb down off a rope b/c he couldn't read a sign from across the room. Fact was all he did to my son was embarrass him that day in front of his class. My son ended up wearing glasses not long after that incident. Had I known this when it happened, rest assured, this teacher would have been brought up on charges.
Just One Teacher March 14, 2012 at 08:49 PM
LK, in 2009 there were 7.2 MILLION according to census data. Are you claiming these 2 terrible teachers are representative of an entire profession? To say, "That's a stretch," would be beyond a stretch itself!
Just One Teacher March 14, 2012 at 08:52 PM
Chuck, Sinecure! Do you have any clue what you are talking about or do you just let your bitterness speak for you? What evidence do you offer to back you claim?
Chuck E. Arla March 14, 2012 at 09:10 PM
JOT, Who the hell trolls through these threads 3 weeks after the fact? And , yes I know plenty of teachers and teacher union officials so I am quite confident in my statements. "Bitterness"?? I think that would be coming from you, teach.
Just One Teacher March 14, 2012 at 09:26 PM
How many of you here have actually researched the bill? It is incredibly vague and full of holes. It is frightening and sad to know that people are out there pushing such rushed, slapped together garbage to be passed in its entirety. I can’t even believe people had the gall to put this forth as complete legislation! The governor talks about increasing the quality of teachers, yet he lowers the education level required to be one, ties our performance reviews to a seriously flawed system of standardized tests, and is attempting to remove one of the few incentives which could attract talented workers. It would cause droves of qualified teachers to retire or flee to other states as a result of decreased salaries and job security.
Just One Teacher March 14, 2012 at 09:27 PM
This bill would only add more confusion to a system already chocked to death by state and federal initiatives. Our state and our classrooms should not be an experiment for such drastic and untested changes. This bill will seriously harm CT schools. “I have reviewed the best research on the achievement gap and teacher evaluation models and I can say with certainty that the current proposed educational reforms will do almost nothing to narrow the achievement gap and will lower the average achievement in CT for all students.” Dr. Daniel A. Long Assistant Professor of Sociology atWesleyan University http://www.cga.ct.gov/2012/EDdata/Tmy/2012SB-00024-R000221-Daniel%20A.%20Long-TMY.PDF
Just One Teacher March 14, 2012 at 09:31 PM
#1 I don't know who is trolling? # 2 Saying you know a guy is not evidence.
Just One Teacher March 14, 2012 at 09:33 PM
I didn't look at the date stamp. This bill is just as dangerous today as it was three weeks ago.
Chuck E. Arla March 15, 2012 at 02:49 PM
JOT, Your fellow traveler GiaMarie challenged L. Keller with "Do you actually know any teachers??(sic)" Ms. Keller responded with her post about her own personal experience with teachers she knew. Question asked and answered. So, now you jump ugly with Ms. Keller because she didn't/can't testify to her knowledge of 7MM teachers across the US? Geez, that sounds fair and reasonable. We realize that you fear the elimination of the tenure system. But stop hyperventilating; this is a one party (Democrat) controlled state and all those teacher dues paid to the CEA and the AFT will ensure that you'll have very little to worry about. Of course for the kids and the taxpayers it's a different story.
Just One Teacher March 15, 2012 at 09:01 PM
What was my comment ugly? I merely pointed out that 2 out 7 million is not a significant percentage. Certainly FAR too small to make sweeping and untested changes to an entire states educational system. Even if we only focus on the teachers her child had in 13 grades, two would not be a huge percentage. That is simple truth. Once again, Chuck, you assumptions are dead wrong. Most teachers in CT are under the NEA, not the AFT. The CEA supports many components of this bill, but you would have to actually do a little bit of research to know that. Personally, I have supported tenure review since I myself was in high school suffering from a burnt out math teacher one year away from retirement. My classmates would ask me to re-grade their tests after he graded them because they were full of oversights and mistakes. It is not WHAT they are trying to do so much as HOW. No, I don’t like my job security and my very teaching license tied tone persons opinion of me (who, by the way might spend a total of an hour in my room all year) and a system of standardized test that research shows to be flawed. It is madness.
Just One Teacher March 15, 2012 at 09:02 PM
Correction, "Why was my comment ugly?"
Just One Teacher March 15, 2012 at 09:09 PM
Also, I still have yet to receive a reply to a question I have posted several times on this site. If teaching is such a cushy, overpaid, “do nothing” career then why are their teacher shortages? There is no shortage of lazy people in this world from what I have seen. You would think that they would all be rushing in to join me while I sit around all day milking cranky taxpayers. Why is there such a high washout rate amongst new teachers as Gerald pointed out? I had a parent disagree with how I taught my class. She felt she could do it better. She quit her career and went through the ARC program. She didn’t last more than a single year.
Chuck E. Arla March 15, 2012 at 09:18 PM
JOT, Did you ever have a student by the name of Brown? Charles Brown? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhXf04
Just One Teacher March 15, 2012 at 09:28 PM
Hilarious! I love Peanuts. Thanks for the chuckle, Chuck, and for not letting me down. Perhaps I just ask too much of you when I request you post something other than opinion or hearsay. Adios. This lazy teacher has homework to finish before class tonight.

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